During the ongoing legal dispute between Elon Musk and Sam Altman concerning the future trajectory of OpenAI, an expert witness, Hemel, provided key testimony. He affirmed that it is "very much the norm" for substantial nonprofit organizations to operate with for-profit affiliates. Hemel further clarified that these for-profit entities are often "quite large compared to the nonprofit" parent, offering the Mozilla Corporation, owner of the Firefox web browser, and the Mozilla Foundation as a prime example. It was also revealed that Hemel is being compensated at a rate of $1,750 per hour for his participation.
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